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            <title>Re: SkewTLogPro app is now available on iTunes!</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Another Con: iOS 5 is required.<br />
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Unfortunately, when an app does not "truly" require iOS 5, an author of an app sometimes forgets to click the check box to make compatible with older IOS versions when they do the compile.<br />
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I still remain at iOS 4.3.3 because iOS 5.1.1 still even has problems including preventing viewing certain menus on certain pages such as:<br />
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[<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://www.spc.noaa.gov/">www.spc.noaa.gov</a>]<br />
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For the soundings on my iOS 4.3.3 devices, in Safari, I've book marked:<br />
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[<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://rucsoundings.noaa.gov/gifs/">rucsoundings.noaa.gov</a>]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>wx nut</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 13:57:36 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>(tu) SkewTLogPro app is now available on iTunes!</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,531,531#msg-531</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ While you can get Skew-T log (p) diagrams on your iPad and iPhone in the form of gif images <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://rucsoundings.noaa.gov/gifs/">here</a>, a new app released on May 3, 2012 takes that basic function to a new level.  It's called <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://www.skewtlogpro.com/">SkewTLogPro</a> and is available in the App Store for $6.99.  Here is a quick review of SkewTLogPro.<br />
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The good.<br />
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1.  What I like about this app is the clarity of the diagrams presented.  All of the lines in the diagram are crisp and clear especially when you zoom in on the diagram with a double tap or standard zooming features on the iPad and iPhone.  <br />
2.  You can plot a Skew-T log (p) diagram for your current location with a single touch of the button. <br />
3.  After plotting a diagram, the app allows you to swipe back and forth to look at soundings valid in the near future or recent past.<br />
4.  There's a feature that stores your most recent airport selections.<br />
5.  After plotting a diagram, there's a very slick capability to see the values in tabular form of each level presented on the diagram.  This includes pressure, temperature, dewpoint temperature, pressure altitude, wind direction and wind speed.  You can swipe up and down to scroll through the pressure levels.  Alternately, there's a vertical selection bar on the right side of the data to allow quick access to the data at a specific pressure level.<br />
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The bad.<br />
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1.  The app only gets you three hours worth of forecasts and only goes back three hours in the past whereas the online version has a more robust number of soundings.  <br />
2.  Be careful of spell correction.  It's easy to type in an airport identifier only to have it correct the spelling to a valid (but different) airport.  This isn't the fault of this app per se, just an unfortunate side-effect. <br />
3.  Valid times listed on the charts are based on the time you graph the diagram rather than the actual time the data is valid.  Forecasts and previous analyses are then based off of that time.  <br />
4.  There doesn't seem to be a quick way to clear the recent airport selection list. <br />
5.  The resulting graph does not tell you the location of the sounding in reference to the actual airport or lat/long chosen.  <br />
6.  Times shown on the diagram appear to be local time and not based on UTC.  <br />
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All in all, this is a good app to have if you are a pilot.  I suspect over time, the app will continue to be developed to add more features.  <br />
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Here is a zoomed in image of a diagram.  Makes an easy read even for those of us with bad eyesight.<br />
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<center class="bbcode"><img src="http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/file.php?8,file=161,filename=Zoom.PNG" class="bbcode" alt="http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/file.php?8,file=161,filename=Zoom.PNG" /></center><br />
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Notice in this sounding that the time listed on the diagram is <strong class="bbcode">11:52:36</strong>.  That's actually the same as the time shown at the top on the iPad representing the current time (11:52 am).  Although this diagram was likely valid at 11:00:00 - but there's no way to tell.    <br />
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<center class="bbcode"><img src="http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/file.php?8,file=167,filename=Time.PNG" class="bbcode" alt="http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/file.php?8,file=167,filename=Time.PNG" /></center><br />
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When entering an Airport ID, you are provided with a list of the recent airports used.  A time saver for sure.  Same is true when entering a lat/long.  <br />
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Here's what a GIF image from the online source would look like on the iPad.  While not too bad in clarity it is easy to see that SkewTLogPro is much more crisp.  This is especially important when viewing these diagrams on an iPhone.<br />
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<center class="bbcode"><img src="http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/file.php?8,file=168,filename=GIF.gif" class="bbcode" alt="http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/file.php?8,file=168,filename=GIF.gif" /></center><br />
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After graphing a diagram, simply tap the Values button and you'll get a scrollable text window of the data for individual pressure levels.  <br />
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            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 12:24:37 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: RUC to RAP fallout</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,518,530#msg-530</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Here's the latest for the RUC soundings Java tool...<br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>As a temporary fix, we are now providing "Bak40" soundings when "Op40" soundings are requested. "Bak40" soundings are soundings generated from the 40km output grid from the backup RUC model, which we are continuing to run here at GSD. (These same soundings are provided when "Bak40" soundings are requested directly.)<br />
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We believe we will have a much better solution, which will provide soundings from the operational RAP, within a few days.<br/></div></blockquote>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 16:28:00 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Now scheduled for May 1st</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,442,529#msg-529</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div><strong>Orest Skrypuch</strong><br/>Comparing the new RAP sounding plots, and the old RUC (using Bak40), "side by side" does demonstrate some significant differences in the outputs.<br/></div></blockquote>
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Yes, they are two different models.  I find that the RAP model does better with moist-unstable environments.  Often the RUC model would produce saturated lapse rates greater than the moist adiabatic lapse rate in rather deep layers...you just don't see this kind of moist-unstable lapse rate in nature.  The RUC model also had a tendency to produce many more false alarms for dense fog scenarios - especially beyond about 12 hours in the forecast.  In these cases, the NAM or GFS would typically underestimate the potential for low clouds.  So when the RUC was implying OVC001 and the NAM/GFS was suggesting OVC025, I would usually split the difference and go with OVC010 and be correct most of the time.  Appears that the RAP model does a bit better in this area.<br />
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BTW, it appears you will still be able to use the Op40 and Bak40 input data source until they eventually stop running the model - projected to be near the end of the summer.  Who knows, they could continue to run the model for several years.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 07:59:51 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Now scheduled for May 1st</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,442,528#msg-528</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Comparing the new RAP sounding plots, and the old RUC (using Bak40), "side by side" does demonstrate some significant differences in the outputs.<br />
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* Orest]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Orest Skrypuch</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 09:00:22 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: RUC to RAP fallout</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,518,527#msg-527</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div><strong>Greg Ellis</strong><br/>Is the Soundings model at [<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://rucsoundings.noaa.gov/">rucsoundings.noaa.gov</a>] ever going to be updated and available again using the RAP model output?   I really like the format of it and as of this morning it is not available.<br/></div></blockquote>
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Hi Greg,<br />
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As I mentioned in my original post...<br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div><strong>Scott Dennstaedt</strong><br/>Also this will mean that the Op40 or Op20 selection on the RUC soundings Java tool is no longer available. For the time being you can use the Bak20 or Bak40 as the input data source <strong class="bbcode">or you can use the RR1h data source for soundings from the new model</strong>.<br/></div></blockquote>
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Actually this data source has been around for 1 or 2 years, but I have not encouraged pilots to use it primarily to keep their server load down to a minimum.  Nevertheless, you can still use the Op40 or Bak40 input data source for as long as it remains available.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 09:43:59 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: RUC to RAP fallout</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,518,526#msg-526</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Is the Soundings model at [<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://rucsoundings.noaa.gov/">rucsoundings.noaa.gov</a>] ever going to be updated and available again using the RAP model output?   I really like the format of it and as of this morning it is not available.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Greg Ellis</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 08:37:11 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: RUC to RAP fallout</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,518,525#msg-525</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I sent an e-mail to the ADDS folks yesterday and it appears that the Winds/Temps aloft from ADDS is now fixed.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 07:26:42 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Now scheduled for May 1st</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,442,524#msg-524</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div><strong>Orest Skrypuch</strong><br/>Wow, the data seems to be pulled very slowly for each RAP sounding set, vice the old RUC. Many, many seconds inbetween.  Also, what is the new <strong class="bbcode">DFI</strong> label, where I might expect to see <strong class="bbcode">A</strong> for analysis?<br/></div></blockquote>
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Yes, any data inputs at the bottom (below the line) are going to be slow given the format of the files that are read.   Op40 and Bak40 are read from an older format called GRIB(1).  The files below the line such as RUC20 and RR1h are read from GRIB2 files.  GRIB2 is the new NCEP standard, and is the format they plan to use for all products in the future.  The GRIB2 files are smaller than GRIB(1) files, but slower to decompress and read. The resulting data are identical.<br />
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DFI is the analysis counterpart.  It stands for Digital Filter Initialization.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 07:16:04 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Now scheduled for May 1st</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,442,523#msg-523</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Wow, the data seems to be pulled very slowly for each RAP sounding set, vice the old RUC. Many, many seconds inbetween.<br />
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Also, what is the new <strong class="bbcode">DFI</strong> label, where I might expect to see <strong class="bbcode">A</strong> for analysis?<br />
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* Orest]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Orest Skrypuch</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 22:33:29 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: RUC to RAP fallout</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,518,522#msg-522</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div><strong>Peter Winik</strong><br/>How many hours in advance will the Rapid Update model work?<br/></div></blockquote>
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I'm assuming Peter you mean Rapid Refresh?  <br />
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It's the same as the RUC.  Both models are issued hourly and produce an hourly forecast out to 18 hours.  However, the domain is North America, not just the CONUS as was the case for the RUC.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 16:48:28 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: RUC to RAP fallout</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,518,521#msg-521</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ How many hours in advance will the Rapid Update model work?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Peter Winik</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 16:43:38 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Step up those nighttime pilot reports...</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,520,520#msg-520</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ From the folks at the Aviation Weather Center (AWC)...<br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The Aviation Weather Center (AWC) is conducting a research project on low level turbulence away from the influences of terrain and in the presence of stronger wind. The AWC is requesting pilots, controllers, and dispatchers make an extra effort to provide PIREPs below 12,000 feet during the nighttime hours--primarily from 0200 UTC through 1100 UTC. This includes reports of negative turbulence as well. The focus of this project runs across the central plains; from Texas to Canada, between the Rockies and the Ohio River Valley, but any nighttime PIREP is greatly appreciated. The project runs through September 1, 2012.<br/></div></blockquote>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 13:35:32 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Now scheduled for May 1st</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,442,519#msg-519</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ This transition appears to have taken place as of 12Z on May 1, 2012 with some issues as indicated <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,518,518#msg-518">here</a>.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 11:22:06 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>RUC to RAP fallout</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,518,518#msg-518</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Of course, nothing ever goes smoothly.  Today (<strong class="bbcode">May 1, 2012</strong>) at <strong class="bbcode">12Z</strong>, the Rapid Update Cycle (RUC) model was effectively turned off and the Rapid Refresh (RAP) model took its place.  However, with this change will likely come with some issues like is being seen right now on ADDS. The Winds/Temps aloft graphics <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://aviationweather.gov/adds/winds/">here</a> are frozen at 11Z.  Either they did not consider this impact or they are having difficulty with the operational changeover.  <span style="color: #FF0000">(* Please note that the winds/temps aloft issue on ADDS has been corrected.)</span>  <br />
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It appears that the Op40, Op20, Bak40 and Bak20 selection on the <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://rucsoundings.noaa.gov">RUC soundings Java tool</a> will eventually disappear.  There hasn't been any schedule set when this will happen.  I am being told that the RUC will continue to be run through the summer and you should still have all of the input sources available.  For now, when selecting the Op40, you are actually getting the Bak40 sounding at this point.  However, if you are interested in using the new RAP model as the input data source or you can use the <strong class="bbcode">RR1h</strong> data source for soundings from the new model.  <br />
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It appears the Currrent Icing Product (CIP), Forecast Icing Product (FIP) and the Graphical Turbulence Guidance (GTG) product found on ADDS that all used the RUC model has made the transition successfully.  There may be other issues over the next few weeks that manifest themselves due to this change.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 11:03:19 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Weather analysis associated with a Cirrus accident near Petersburg, WV</title>
            <link>http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,253,517#msg-517</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ The NTSB <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/sr5ae155m1d12wqn1mqxuo451/L04282012120000.pdf">factual report</a> is now available.  As I suspected the <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/0t41uh55aqj202bgdcbtr1eq1/M04282012120000.pdf">probable cause</a> was attributed to turbulence.  <br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows.  The pilot's loss of control of the airplane during an instrument approach in turbulent weather conditions.<br/></div></blockquote>
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I do not agree that turbulence was a factor in this accident.  I believe it was strictly poor piloting in instrument conditions allowing the airplane to get slow enough to induce a stall/spin while on approach.   Here's the description in the report of the events that occurred.<br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>At 1001, the airplane began a series of right turns consistent with a holding pattern around the OMGEY intersection that lasted until approximately 1021. At approximately 1028 the airplane descended to about 5,200 feet and began tracking toward the PADOH intersection, with the flaps configured to the 50-percent position. At this time the autopilot was engaged in altitude hold vertical mode and global positioning system lateral mode with approach coupled. Over the next 1.5 minutes, the airspeed gradually decreased from around 115 knots to around 80 knots, while the normalized angle of attack increased from around 0.075 to around 0.800.<br />
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At 1029:24, the autopilot disengaged while the airplane was flying at an indicated airspeed of 76 knots and a normalized angle of attack of 0.811. Five seconds later, the stall warning briefly activated, at an indicated airspeed of 86 knots and a normalized angle of attack of 0.814. Over the next 17 seconds the airplane rolled 46 degrees left wing down, followed by 42 degrees right wing down. The airplane then rolled left while simultaneously pitching to 25 degrees nose up before the stall warning again activated continuously for 13 seconds. While the stall warning was active, the airspeed decreased from 79 knots to 64 knots, before increasing again to 88 knots, and the normalized angle of attack increased from 0.768 to 0.998, before decreasing again to 0.695 one second after the stall warning deactivated. The pitch then began to decrease to 86 degrees nose down while the reaching a maximum bank of 153 degrees left wing down at 1030:12. During this time the indicated airspeed reduced from 79 knots to 64 knots, before increasing again as the airplane continued to pitch nose down. The airplane then began to pitch up toward a level attitude, while the airspeed increased from 88 knots to 171 knots over a period of 8 seconds. During the descent, the airplane reached a vertical speed of -12,000 fpm and the normal acceleration (g-force) increased to 3.29 g's. The CAPS handle was activated at 1030:21, while the airplane's attitude was 2 degrees left wing down, the pitch was 2 degrees airplane nose up, and the airspeed was 171 knots. The CAPS rocket deployed one second later, at an altitude of 4,000 feet msl (about 1,200 feet agl). The recorded data ended at 1031:26.<br/></div></blockquote>
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This kind of gradual decay of airspeed is consistent with too little power and not enough nose-down attitude and not due to some "gusty winds" that were reported by the pilot.  <br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The National Weather Service (NWS) Boston Area Forecast described a warm front extending over the region, with the forecast for West Virginia indicating overcast clouds at 3,000 feet msl with cloud tops to 30,000 feet, visibility 4 miles in moderate rain and mist; with a slight improvement in ceiling and visibility by 1400. Marginal visual meteorological conditions (MVMC) were expected to continue through the evening.<br/></div></blockquote>
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The NTSB uses non-standard weather terminology by indicating MVMC.  They likely meant marginal VFR or MVFR .  Here is the area forecast for the panhandle of West Virginia:<br />
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ELSW..OVC030 TOP FL300. VIS 4SM -RA BR. 18Z OVC040. -RA. <br />
OTLK..MVFR CIG<br />
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The forecast was for light rain (-RA) and not moderate rain (RA) as stated.  Also, the ceiling was expected to improve at 18Z (1400 EDT), but there's no mention about an improvement in visibility.<br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The forecast was amended by AIRMET Sierra for IMC over the area.<br/></div></blockquote>
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I am not sure of what they are referring to.  The area forecast (FA) was amended at 1015 UTC, but the amendment kept the same weather over the panhandle of West Virginia.  There was no amendment for AIRMET Sierra that was issued at 0845Z.  <br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The NWS had AIRMETs Sierra and Tango current over the region for IMC, mountain obscuration conditions, and moderate turbulence below 15,000 feet. The conditions were expected to continue through 1700.<br/></div></blockquote>
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Yes, AIRMET Sierra was issued over the region for IFR conditions and mountain obscuration.  However, the destination airport (W99) was not within AIRMET Tango.  The edge of the AIRMET was 30 to 40 miles to the east.    <br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>Further east, over Maryland and Virginia, an AIRMET for low-level wind shear and strong surface winds was in effect, as well as a Convective SIGMET for an area of embedded severe thunderstorms, a weather watch for the potential for severe tornadic thunderstorms, as well as a SIGMET for high altitude turbulence.<br/></div></blockquote>
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This is all correct except for the SIGMET for high altitude turbulence.  The SIGMET (shown below) is not to the east over Maryland and Virginia, but to the north and west over Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia, Michigan, Indiana and Kentucky.  Of course it doesn't make a difference since the turbulence was expected between FL210 and FL290.  <br />
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WSUS01 KKCI 301230 <br />
WS1R <br />
BOSR WS 301230 <br />
SIGMET ROMEO 1 VALID UNTIL 301630 <br />
<strong class="bbcode">OH WV VA MI IN KY</strong> <br />
<strong class="bbcode">FROM 20NE DXO TO 20NW CLE TO 30SE APE TO 40SSE PSK TO HMV TO 30E <br />
LOZ TO 20SSW CVG TO 40SSE GRR TO 20NE DXO</strong> <br />
OCNL SEV TURB BTN FL210 AND FL290. DUE TO WNDSHR ASSOCD WITH <br />
JTST. RPTD BY ACFT. CONDS CONTG BYD 1630Z. <br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The closest terminal area forecast to the to the accident site was from Elkins-Randolph County Airport (EKN), Elkins, West Virginia, located about 34 nautical miles west of W99. The forecast prior to the flight’s departure expected MVMC to IMC to prevail due to light to moderate rain and mist, with broken to overcast ceilings.<br/></div></blockquote>
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All correct.<br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The NWS Surface Analysis Chart for 1100 depicted the accident site ahead, or west, of a warm front associated with a deepening low pressure system over the Virginia and North Carolina boarder <span style="color: #FF0000">(sic)</span> south of the accident site.<br/></div></blockquote>
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Of course, the pilot would have used the 09Z chart, not the 15Z chart for his analysis.  Nevertheless, the synoptic situation was as described above. <br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>Clouds and precipitation were predominating over the region, with severe thunderstorms over the Atlantic coastal states and extensive IMC over West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Virginia.<br/></div></blockquote>
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All correct.<br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The NWS hourly Radar Summary Chart for 0919 depicted an extensive area of weather echoes over the area, with a few areas embedded intense to extreme intensity precipitation echoes in the vicinity of West Virginia. The NWS Sterling, Virginia (LWX) WSR-88D base reflectivity images surrounding the period of the accident depicted an area of echoes of 25 to 35 dBZ “light to moderate” intensity echoes over KW99 and the accident site.<br/></div></blockquote>
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Mostly light although the W99 surface observation reported heavy rain at the surface.<br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The 0800 upper air sounding for Washington/Dulles International Airport (IAD), Sterling, Virginia, located about 70 nautical miles east of the accident site, depicted a saturated environment from the surface to approximately 18,000 feet msl. A defined frontal inversion was noted from the surface to about 1,300 feet msl, with light surface winds below the inversion and a rapid veering of the wind to the south and increase in wind speed with height.<br/></div></blockquote>
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Yes, the winds at 1300 feet MSL were from the east and shifted to a southeasterly direction and southerly direction at 5,000 feet MSL.  But this was at Dulles, Virginia, not at the accident site.  <br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>There was an urgent pilot report from a pilot operating a Cirrus SR22 at 0944 in the vicinity of Elkins, West Virginia, or approximately 25 miles northeast of the W99, reporting severe turbulence at 8,000 feet.<br/></div></blockquote>
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Correct.  This was likely similar to the thin layer turbulence experienced by a crew of a turboprop aircraft near Roanoke, Virginia.   <br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The 1042 weather observation at W99, included calm winds, 3 statute miles visibility in heavy rain, an overcast ceiling at 800 feet, temperature 16 degrees C, dew point 13 degrees C, and an altimeter setting of 29.61 inches of mercury. The remarks section indicated an hourly precipitation of 0.25 inches and there were no remarks indicating that thunderstorms or lightning were present.<br/></div></blockquote>
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Correct.  KW99 301442Z AUTO 00000KT 3SM +RA OVC008 16/13 A2961 RMK AO2 <br />
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It was interesting that the NTSB did not mentioned the forecast winds aloft for the area that were forecast to be calm at 6000 feet MSL at Elkins, WV.   <br />
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A new piece of information was present in the factual report by the pilot that turbulence wasn't experienced until he entered the hold.  <br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The pilot continued to hold for approximately 30 minutes while he waited for the weather to improve, and reported that there <strong class="bbcode">was virtually no turbulence until he entered the hold</strong>. He was cleared by air traffic control to initiate the approach, and noted that the winds at his altitude were gusting out of the southeast around 40 knots.<br/></div></blockquote>
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So, does this imply that the pilot was in turbulent air for 30 minutes?  And how does a pilot of an SR22 determine that the winds were gusting out of the southeast around 40 knots?]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:51:36 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Now scheduled for May 1st</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Appears they've settled on a date of May 1, 2012.<br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The Rapid Refresh (RAP) model will be implemented May 1st. The RAP will be used as the forecast model that provides the initial forecast conditions instead of the Rapid Update Cycle (RUC) for Automated Icing CIP, FIP and Turbulence GTG products. In conjunction with the upgrade of RAP model, GTG will be upgraded from 20KM to 13KM resolution. During the upgrade process some interruptions of data availability may be possible. Further guidance can be found in the <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/tin11-54mesa_aad.htm">TIN for the RAP</a> and <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/tin11-58gtg_aad.htm">GTG TIN</a>.<br/></div></blockquote>]]></description>
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            <title>Re: Weather analysis for an accident of a Cirrus SR22 near Newcomerstown, Ohio</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div><strong>NDR</strong><br/>Regarding the following:<br />
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"At 15Z, the surface analysis chart shows a long cold front running down the spine of the Appalachian Mountains. A low pressure located in the Gulf of Mexico will be the primary low pressure expected to rapidly develop off the Carolina coast on Sunday night. "<br />
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I don't fully understand what is meant by the second sentence.  What low is "expected to rapidly develop"?  Doesn't the low already exist (it's in the Gulf)?<br />
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I was confused by a similar NWS "forecast discussion" over the weekend also.<br/></div></blockquote>
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Yes, the low already exists at the surface.  It simply means that as this weather system is developing (notice the large number of lows along the front at the surface), the low currently located in the Gulf was expected to move to the north-northeast and deepen in pressure (develop) off the Carolina coast and become the primary low pressure center associated with the future weather system.  This is a common occurrence we see during the cold season for the development of strong nor'easters.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:50:41 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Weather analysis for an accident of a Cirrus SR22 near Newcomerstown, Ohio</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Scott, <br />
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Regarding the following:<br />
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"At 15Z, the surface analysis chart shows a long cold front running down the spine of the Appalachian Mountains. A low pressure located in the Gulf of Mexico will be the primary low pressure expected to rapidly develop off the Carolina coast on Sunday night. "<br />
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I don't fully understand what is meant by the second sentence.  What low is "expected to rapidly develop"?  Doesn't the low already exist (it's in the Gulf)?<br />
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I was confused by a similar NWS "forecast discussion" over the weekend also.<br />
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Thank you!]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:42:42 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Weather analysis for an accident of a Cirrus SR22 near Newcomerstown, Ohio</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <span style="color: #FF0000">Disclaimer:</span>  Please note that the analysis to follow may contain errors and omissions.  It has been prepared for educational purposes only and does not reflect the view of the NWS, NTSB, FAA or any of their personnel, agencies or organizations.  If you would like to learn more about aviation weather, please visit [<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com">avwxworkshops.com</a>].  You can <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/register.php">register</a> as a Regular member for as little as $39.    <br />
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On the morning of April 21, the pilot of a Cirrus SR22 departed Somerset Airport (KSMQ) in north-central New Jersey at about 10:13 a.m. based on <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N110EB">Flightaware</a>.  The flight was headed to Ohio State University Airport (KOSU) in central Ohio.  It is reported to have crashed short of its destination just to the southeast of Newcomerstown, Ohio in east-central Ohio (within the white circle as depicted on the Flightaware track below). The pilot was the only occupant and was fatally injured in the crash.  The accident occurred at approximately12:22 pm (1622Z) on April 21st based on news reports of calls to 911 and FAA preliminary accident data.  What follows a preliminary analysis of the weather at the time of the accident.  <br />
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It is important to understand that a very active weather pattern was beginning to emerge in the eastern third of the U.S.  At 18Z, a split flow regime exists as shown in the 500 mb (~18,000 ft) chart below.  The axis of a neutral-tilted trough in the northern branch is moving east out of the Ohio Valley and digging south bring cold air down from Canada.  The trough in the southern branch has a closed circulation and beginning to fill with colder air and is expected to phase with the northern branch producing a very intense nor'easter-type weather system along the east coast that will impact the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and lower Great Lakes on Monday with moderate to heavy snow in western New York and western Pennsylvania. <br />
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At 15Z, the mean sea level surface analysis chart shows a long cold front running down the spine of the Appalachian Mountains.  A low pressure located in the Gulf of Mexico will be the primary low pressure expected to move to the north-northeast and rapidly deepen off the Carolina coast on Sunday night.     <br />
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This visible satellite image valid at 1615Z (shortly before the time of the accident) shows ample moisture in the form of overcast cloud cover in association with the cold front.  Notice that most of the clouds are <u class="bbcode">in the colder</u> air to the west of the cold front.  Important clue for structural icing concerns.   <br />
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As of 1555Z, there were <strong class="bbcode">no</strong> convective SIGMETs active along the route from New Jersey to Ohio, however, the clouds shown in the visible satellite image above are producing light rainfall along and the west of the cold front as can be seen by this radar mosaic valid at 1618Z.<br />
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This radar image below from the Pittsburgh NWS NEXRAD Doppler radar also shows the light precipitation located in eastern Ohio and western Pennsylvania.  The accident site is located near some very light precipitation returns about 20 miles south-southwest of Harry Clever Field Airport (KPHD).<br />
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This precipitation was falling to the surface as light rain with ceilings in the marginal VFR category around the time of the accident. <br />
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KPHD 211653Z AUTO 34006KT 5SM <strong class="bbcode">RA</strong> BR SCT010 SCT015 OVC021 06/04 A2990 RMK AO2 SLP126 P0007 T00610039 =<br />
KPHD 211648Z AUTO 34004KT 5SM <strong class="bbcode">-RA</strong> SCT014 OVC020 06/03 A2990 RMK AO2 P0006 =<br />
KPHD 211626Z AUTO 34008KT 3SM <strong class="bbcode">-RA</strong> BR FEW007 OVC014 06/03 A2989 RMK AO2 P0004 =<br />
<span style="color: #FF0000">KPHD 211615Z AUTO 33006KT 2 1/2SM <strong class="bbcode">-RA</strong> BR OVC010 06/03 A2989 RMK AO2 P0002 =</span><br />
KPHD 211553Z AUTO 33006KT 7SM <strong class="bbcode">-RA</strong> OVC010 06/03 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP124 P0000 T00560033 TSNO =<br />
KPHD 211453Z AUTO 33008KT 10SM <strong class="bbcode">-RA</strong> OVC012 06/03 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP120 P0003 60011 T00560033 53013 =<br />
KPHD 211353Z AUTO 32008KT 10SM <strong class="bbcode">-RA</strong> OVC010 06/03 A2987 RMK AO2 SLP115 P0004 T00560033 =<br />
KPHD 211326Z AUTO 36005KT 7SM <strong class="bbcode">-RA</strong> BKN010 BKN013 OVC025 06/03 A2985 RMK AO2 P0003 =<br />
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The freezing level at the departure airport around 14Z was approximately 11,000 feet.  The pilot was <strong class="bbcode">headed in a direction</strong> where the freezing level was lowering with altitude based on this freezing level analysis below valid at 1600Z.  Assuming the pilot was flying at at constant altitude at 8,000 feet (based on the <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N110EB/history/20120421/1500Z/KSMQ/KOSU/tracklog">Flightaware track log</a>), this meant the pilot would eventually enter a region of temperatures at or below freezing crossing through the northern portion of the West Virginia panhandle.  Given the precipitation shown above and sounding analyses shown below, there was plenty of visible moisture at 8,000 feet.<br />
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This trend toward lower freezing levels is represented nicely by looking at sounding analyses for Pittsburgh (KPIT) in western Pennsylvania, Wheeling, West Virginia (KHLG) and Harry Clever Field Airport (KPHD) in eastern Ohio (and close to the accident site).  At 16Z, the freezing level for Pittsburgh is about 8,300 feet as shown below.  Note that only one freezing level exists.<br />
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A little further west, the sounding analysis for Wheeling also at 16Z shows a freezing level roughly at 8,200 feet.  Again, note that only one freezing level exists. <br />
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Lastly, near the accident site, the sounding analysis at 16Z for Harry Clever Field (KPHD) shows a freezing level at 7,600 feet and two additional freezing levels exist below.  <br />
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The freezing level analysis above suggests a very rapid change from about 8,000 feet down to 3,000 feet just to the west of the West Virginia panhandle.  Given such an abrupt change in the freezing level, this image does not tell you the complete story, unfortunately.  A large lowest freezing level gradient normally suggests there are multiple freezing levels in this area.  The lowest freezing level is about 2,400 feet according to this sounding analysis (below) valid at 16Z about 30 miles to the north of the accident site.  The temperature crosses back over the 0°C isotherm about 3,700 feet and again around 7,600 feet.  The freezing level graphic above only shows the lowest freezing level (* see footnote at the end).  There is the possibility of non-convective SLD (freezing rain) present in a layer between 2,400 feet and 3,700 feet.  Nevertheless, flight at 8,000 feet would result in saturated air at slightly supercooled temperatures (colder than 0°C).  The freezing rain layer below would not be an issue for an IFR flight at 8,000 feet.    <br />
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The official freezing level analysis valid at 15Z issued by a forecaster at the Aviation Weather Center, does show two areas exhibiting multiple freezing levels denoted by the dashed violet polygons.  The closest polygon covering a good portion of central and western Ohio and was anticipated to move to the east with time.  <br />
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All of this prompted forecasters at the Aviation Weather Center to issue a G-AIRMET snapshot valid at 15Z for moderate structural icing for the eastern 2/3rd of Ohio and western Pennsylvania from the freezing level through FL180.  The freezing level was forecast to vary from 7,000 to 9,000 feet.<br />
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While cloud tops were generally high (medium-dark blue colors) in the areas with precipitation, the accident occurred in a region with slightly warmer cloud tops as can be seen by this color-enhanced infrared satellite image valid at 1615Z.  <br />
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The sounding analysis below also shows tops near the accident site transitioning lower to about 20,000 feet with warmer temperatures of about -20°C.  A transition from cold to warmer cloud tops can change the icing scenario entirely from a mixed phase process consisting of mostly  ice crystals mixed with some supercooled liquid water to a mostly or all-liquid process (referred to as non-classical SLD).   <br />
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The Current Icing Product (CIP) showed some potential for light to moderate structural icing at 9,000 feet based on this icing analysis valid at 16Z.  Little icing potential was shown at 7,000 feet since temperatures above 0°C existed at 7,000 feet.<br />
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With respect to structural icing, the devil is very much in the details.  While we do not know if structural icing or weather was a causal or contributing factor in this accident, the environment was certainly primed for a nasty icing situation.  Notice that in this sounding analysis valid at 16Z and very close to the accident site that the freezing level is slightly below 8,000 feet and there is a distinct temperature inversion from 2,500 feet to 6,500 feet.  A temperature inversion such as this can keep the clouds above very clean.  The result of such an environment is fewer, but larger cloud drops.  Larger drops are more hazardous in that they can collect on many more surfaces and penetrate the boundary layer on the wings and vertical stabilizer well behind the leading edges.  Often, automated icing diagnostics such as CIP may not always pick up on these features and some aircraft can have a difficult time removing this kind of runback ice especially when it is severe.        <br />
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<hr class="bbcode" />(*) The lowest freezing level graphic used to show areas with multiple freezing levels as hatched regions as outlined in <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTY1">this</a> member workshop.  I believe this feature has been missing from the freezing level graphics on the ADDS website for nearly a year.  I've reported this to the Aviation Weather Center and they have yet to correct this issue.  It is important to always check the official G-AIRMET freezing level graphic which indicates areas that contain multiple freezing levels.<hr class="bbcode" /><br />
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Please check back for additional updates as the NTSB performs their investigation.]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:51:44 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Good example of meridional flow</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ This is a good example of meridional flow.  This is an amplified ridge-trough pattern with a ridge in the western U.S. and a trough in the eastern U.S.  For the end of April, this is quite an unusual situation.  We see this kind of pattern during the months from the end of November through early March.  This trough in the east will likely produce over 12" of snow through western NY, western PA, western MD and northern WV.  Crazy weather for the end of April...<br />
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            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:38:25 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Now scheduled for May 1st or May 8th</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Here's the newest information on the transition to the RAP model....<br />
<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>The new scheduled date for RAP implementation is now either 1 May or 8 May 2012. It was found that due to a script problem in the NCO version, the RAP had not been assimilating radar reflectivity data in 2012. Two other smaller issues were found also due to script issues: lack of GOES cloud-top data over full RAP domain, and issuing of 0h/analysis fields after the RAP digital filter initialization instead of before. The NCEP Centers will re-evaluate the RAP guidance now including these revisions for the next 30 days. Again, the planned implementation date is now set for 1 May or 8 May (both Tuesdays).<br/></div></blockquote>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:44:25 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>(tu) Basic workshop table of contents</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <hr class="bbcode" /><center class="bbcode"><span style="font-size: large"><span style="color: #0000FF">AvWxWorkshops.com Basic Workshops Table of Contents</span></span></center><br />
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The growing library of <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com">AvWxWorkshops.com</a> contains dozens of bite-sized aviation weather workshops ranging from 5 to 20 minutes in length.  Below you will find a brief description of every basic "bite-sized" workshop available within the library. Each description contains a link to the details page of that workshop.  Feel free to use this table of contents to locate a topic of interest by searching this webpage.  Regular and Elite members of AvWxWorkshops.com can login and freely view all of these basic workshops as many times as you'd like.  If you are not a member, please feel free to <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/register.php">register</a> now.  Note that this table of contents does <strong class="bbcode">not</strong> include a description for any <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshops-titles.php?type=premium">premium workshops</a>.   <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTg4">Using the K Index to assess convective potential</a> - The K Index is a parameter that all pilots learn how to use during their primary training.  However, despite its apparent usefulness, the K Index has a few limitations that need to be understood.  The K Index is not a result of lifting a parcel of air like many other convective indices such as CAPE and the lifted index.  It is best used to identify non-severe convection or heavy convective rain fall events.  This workshop will show how the K Index is derived and identify its key limitations.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTg3">Using loops to assess trends in weather reports and forecasts</a> - The charts and diagrams used by pilots for preflight analysis are all presented in two dimensions.  However, adding the dimension of time will enhanced the effectiveness of your preflight weather briefings.  This can be done by using looping constructs.  This workshop shows how to leverage common weather products to identify trends in the weather.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTg1">Deciphering those date-time stamps</a> - With all of the choices of preflight weather products available, pilots can have a difficult time identifying how to read those date-time stamps to determine when the product is valid.  There are often multiple dates on the product and some products are valid over a period of time or at a specific time.  This workshop surveys many common weather products to get an edge up on learning how to determine when they are valid.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTgz">Cold stratocumulus clouds</a> - Stratocumulus clouds are ordinarily a few thousand feet thick.  Pilots tend to think they can easily climb or descend through this cloud deck during the cold season especially if they are producing snow.  Well, think again.  There may be a huge risk descending or climbing through a layer of cold stratocumulus clouds.    This workshop presents a case of <u class="bbcode">two</u> Boeing 767s reporting severe rime ice as they descended down through such a cloud deck over Louisville during the overnight hours. <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTgy">Surface analysis tips</a> - The surface analysis chart should be where all pilots start their preflight briefing.  The surface analysis chart can tell us a lot about the surface wind direction and wind speed at our departure and destination airports. This workshop discusses the nuts and bolts of how to use the surface analysis chart issued by the Hydrometeorological Prediction Center (HPC).  This includes how to leverage the surface analysis chart to assess the wind direction and wind speeds at the surface.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTgx">ASOS precipitation</a> - The purpose of this workshop is to describe a few important limitations of an unattended (AUTO) Automated Surface Observing System (ASOS).  Specifically, an ASOS is incapable of reporting drizzle (DZ) or freezing drizzle (FZDZ) at this time.  At some locations, however, a trained observer can augment the report to include drizzle or freezing drizzle.   <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTgw">Using AIRMET Zulu during the cold season</a> - This workshop uses a flight planning scenario to illustrate  how to properly utilize AIRMET Zulu during the winter months.  AIRMETs have important limitations.  They are time-smeared forecasts valid over a range of 6 hours.  As a result, if the AIRMET area is large, it may be that only a small portion of the total AIRMET area may be affected at any one time.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTc5">Precipitation forecasts:  Accumulated versus instantaneous</a> - There are two kinds of precipitation forecasts you will typically use.  One is an accumulated precipitation forecast valid over a range of time and the other is associated with precipitation coverage valid at a specific time.  This workshop explains how to properly use these two types of precipitation forecasts.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTc4">Common errors in the FBWinds forecast</a> - While the FBWinds may be the "official" NWS/FAA products for temperatures and winds aloft, it does have some inherent limitations that all pilots should know about.  Using a flight planning scenario associated with the passing of a cold front, this workshop illustrates how using the official FBWinds forecast can result in a 3,000 ft. error in the freezing level.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTc3">Forecasting a low IFR event several days in advance</a> - Whether flying VFR or IFR pilots often have sufficient guidance for determining the threat of IFR conditions on the outbound leg of a round-robin flight.  But what if you are returning in two or three days? Do you want to make this trip at all if the weather is likely to be below your minimums on the return leg?  Using a flight planning scenario, this workshop demonstrates how to use the graphical Model Output Statistics (MOS) to determine the potential for a low IFR event two or three days in the future.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTc2">When will the marine layer retreat?</a> - If you live and fly on the west coast of the U.S., morning fog, known as the marine layer, is very normal part of your preflight planning.  However, if you fly in and out of an airport without a scheduled terminal aerodrome forecast (TAF), how do you know when the fog will dissipate?  Using a proposed departure from the Bay Area in California, this workshop explains how to use the GFS LAMP guidance to identify when the marine layer is likely to retreat.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTc1">Using historical data</a> - Often what has occurred in the recent past can be extremely valuable to a pilot to understand the current weather.  This is expecially true with convective precipitation.  Most websites including the Aviation Digital Data Service (ADDS) do not provide a historical perspective.  Using a flight planning scenario in the Midwest, this workshop provides guidance on how to use historical data to identify that area of precipitation is a convective debris leftover from previous thunderstorms and is safe to fly through.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTcz">VFR convective flight planning</a> - Flying IFR in a convective environment may be challenging for the average instrument pilot.  Often it is beneficial to fly under VFR to provide the greatest flexibility for route and altitude.  Using a flight planning scenario in the Deep South, this workshop demonstrates how to use various NWS convective guidance to plan a flight under VFR when thunderstorms are a flight risk.  This also includes how to select the best altitude for such a flight. <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTcy">Conditions inhibiting a radiation fog event</a> - Pilots are taught that radiation fog (ground fog) can form when the sky is clear, winds are light or calm and the relative humidity is high.  Unfortunately, even when all of these conditions exist, radiation fog may still be inhibited from forming.  That's because the conditions above focus only on what is happening at the surface and do not take into account what is happening just above the surface in the potential fog layer.  This workshop discusses what can keep that radiation fog from forming even though all the "right" ingredients are present.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTcx">Understanding the saturation mixing ratio</a> - The saturation mixing ratio is perhaps the most mysterious of all the lines on a thermodynamic chart called a Skew-T log (p) diagram.  This workshop discusses how to use the saturation mixing ratio to calculate the lifted condensation level (LCL) to determine the bases of most cumuliform clouds.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTcw">High instability with no chance of thunder</a> - Pilots are taught when the lifted index is highly negative that thunderstorms, should be anticipated.  However, that isn't always the case especially when the area of instability is under a ridge of high pressure.  Using a flight scenario in the Midwest, this workshop will illustrate how a ridge such as this will limit afternoon convection keeping the skies clear.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MzM">Non-convective low level wind shear</a> - When a forecast for WS (wind shear) appears in the TAF or is issued by the Aviation Weather Center as part of AIRMET Tango, pilots immediately equate this to a nasty turbulence event.  This is perhaps the most misunderstood forecast provided to pilots.  This workshop explains why a forecast for non-convective low level wind shear is not a forecast for turbulence and why conditions are often glassy smooth.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTY5">Recognizing thin layer turbulence</a> - Most moderate turbulence is often widespread.  Some severe turbulence events, however, occur in rather thin layers.  In fact, it is not unusual for there to be a severe turbulence report just 2,000 feet below a report smooth conditions.  A thermodynamic chart called a Skew-T log (p) diagram is one of the best ways to diagnose thin layer turbulence events.  This workshop provides specific guidance on how to determine the potential for severe thin layer turbulence.    <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTY4">Thunderstorm symbology</a> - The present weather symbols used by graphical METARs Java Tool found on the Aviation Digital Data Service (ADDS) website do not always tell the complete story.  In fact, when thunderstorms are being reported in the airport's vicinity while rain is being reported within the terminal area, don't count on seeing a thunderstorm symbol.  This workshop discusses why it's important to always look at the textual METAR instead of relying strictly on the graphical representation.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTY3">Using the standard lapse rate to estimate the freezing level</a> - The standard lapse rate is one of the aviation rules of thumb that gets drilled into most pilots.  In fact, it is very common for pilots to use this lapse rate for preflight planning purposes such as calculating the freezing level based solely on the surface temperature.  The standard lapse rate should never be used for this purpose.  This workshop will demonstrate a more accurate and consistent approach on how to determine the freezing level.   <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTY2">Estimating wind gusts</a> - Airports served by a terminal aerodrome forecast (TAF) have a detailed forecast for wind direction, wind speed and wind gust potential.  However, if you are not flying into an airport served by a TAF, you will not have a site-specific forecast for wind.  This workshop identifies how to use a thermodynamic chart called a Skew-T log (p) diagram to estimate the wind gust potential at the surface.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTY1">Multiple freezing levels</a> - During the cold season it is not uncommon for there to be multiple freezing levels.  While multiple freezing levels are not always a sign of adverse weather, it is typically a common requirement for the development of freezing rain (FZRA).  This workshop illustrates several ways to accurately identify the potential for multiple freezing levels on your preflight analysis.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTYz">Convective SIGMETs</a> - It may not always be obvious, but not all thunderstorms will meet convective SIGMET criteria.  Once the criteria is met, a forecaster at the Aviation Weather Center (AWC) will issue a convective SIGMET.   Most importantly, convective SIGMETs are not a forecast for thunderstorms; instead they represent more of a nowcast placing a fence around thunderstorms that are significant to aviation.  In this workshop we will review the criteria used by this forecaster before a convective SIGMET is issued.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTYy">Collaborative convective forecast product</a> - The CCFP is a seasonal forecast product available on the Aviation Digital Data Service website.  It is produced in collaboration with several commercial entities and government organizations including the Aviation Weather Center, Center Weather Service Units and the airlines.  The criteria used is not the same as convective SIGMETs, so it is not a thunderstorm forecast as most pilots believe.  In fact, this forecast is not well-suited for most general aviation pilots.  This workshop will show why general aviation pilots must be careful in using this forecast for their preflight weather briefing.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTYw">Snow covered ground and the visible satellite image</a> - Most of the time, the visible satellite image is easy to use.  Clouds are generally located wherever you see a shade of white.  It helps the pilot show the extent of the cloud cover and the satellite loop shows their movement.  But, in the winter what looks like clouds may actually be snow on the ground.  This workshop provides some tips to help a pilot to differentiate between clouds and a snow-covered surface.   <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTI5">Lightning-free convection</a> - Most pilots believe that you can only be struck by lightning when there are thunderstorms in close proximity.  What pilots don't realize is that most aircraft fall victim to a lightning strike in regions where no natural lightning is occurring or expected to occur.  The aircraft itself induces the lightning strike.  In fact, it is thought that most airliners average about one lightning strike per year.   This workshop will discuss how to avoid being the victim of an aircraft-induced lightning strike.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTU1">Turbulence in the wake of a cold front</a> - In the wake of a cold front it can get quite windy including some stronger gusts.  Strong winds and gusts normally equate to some moderate turbulence.  However, even though it may be windy at the surface, it is often possible to find an altitude that is nearly smooth without the need for oxygen.  This workshop will demonstrate how to use a Skew-T log (p) diagram to find the altitude with the smoothest ride in the region behind a cold front causing gusty winds at the surface.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTQ5">Surface pressure troughs</a> - When looking at the mean sea level surface analysis chart there are many familiar features.  This includes high and low pressure centers, isobars and frontal systems.  But, there are other elements depicted on this chart such as outflow boundaries and surface pressure troughs that may be unfamiliar.  Surface pressure troughs are quite common, but many pilots don't understand what they may mean from an adverse weather perspective.   This workshop will help to identify what kind of adverse weather you might expect if your proposed flight takes you through a surface trough.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTI3">Graphical TAFs</a> - Terminal Aerodrome Forecasts (TAFs) are a textual forecast.  Consequently, when examining the TAFs along their proposed route most pilots will simply view the text for each TAF.  However, the Aviation Digital Data Service (ADDS) allows you to view the TAFs in a graphical format similar to the way METARs can be displayed graphically using a station model.  This workshop will explain how to get the most from the ADDS graphical TAF display.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTM2">Freezing rain & thunderstorms</a> - Pilots are taught to always avoid thunderstorms and never to fly into areas of freezing rain.  But what about when they occur together?  When freezing rain occurs there is generally a very stable layer (temperature inversion) near the surface.  This kind of stability typically will squash any chance of thunderstorms.  But, there are times where warm air can ride up and over the cold, dense air at the surface producing elevated convection.  This workshop will discuss the conditions that can produce both freezing rain and thunderstorms.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTIz">Echo top  heights</a> - Echo top heights are produce by the same NWS NEXRAD Doppler radars that produce the familiar base reflectivity product.  The echo top product is also available in the satellite weather broadcast.  Echo tops are primarily used by meteorologists to determine the heights of thunderstorms.  Higher tops are indicative of convective turbulence.  While they do generally define the top of the echo region in a precipitating cloud, they are not the same as cloud tops and should never be used as such.  This workshop explains why they can provide misleading information when determining if it is safe to fly through an area of precipitation.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTI4">Convective outflow boundaries</a> - Cold, dense air is the exhaust of deep, moist convection.  As this cold air exits the thunderstorm from below and hits the ground to spread out like pancake batter poured on a griddle.  The edge of this outflow is a gust front that moves quickly away from the thunderstorm.  Most outflow boundaries are benign, but there are some important aspects to consider.  This workshop discusses a convective outflow boundary and provides some guidance on when pilots should be concerned flying through one of these outflow boundaries.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTE4">Anomalous propagation</a> - We can't look at a NEXRAD image and take the image too seriously.  Not everything presented on this image is real precipitation reaching the surface.  In some cases, the radar beam is bent or ducted in a way that causes it to strike the ground far from the radar site producing what appears as precipitation returns that can resemble the appearance of thunderstorms.  The phenomenon is referred to as anomalous propagation or AP.   In some situations this can be successfully filtered by the radar, but not always.  This workshop explains the reasons for anomalous propagation and how to recognize it on a NEXRAD image.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTE5">Satellite weather gone bad</a> - Pilots are becoming more and more comfortable making flights since they've had the ability to see near real time weather while en route all courtesy of the satellite weather broadcast from XM Radio.  The composite NEXRAD image is probably one of the most valuable products that gets broadcast.  Every 5 minutes a new update is received allowing the pilot to see the location of areas of precipitation.  But is that image something you can trust?  Not always.  This workshop will demonstrate how some returns presented on your satellite weather display may not be real precipitation.  Also, discussed is how an over zealous filter may remove real areas of precipitation including severe thunderstorms.    <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTQ4">Clear air turbulence</a> - Turbulence is largely a function of vertical mixing in the atmosphere.  If air is moving up and/or down, the chances of turbulence is increased.  Turbulence can occur within clouds, but it also frequently occurs in cloud-free areas.  As a result, this is referred to as clear air turbulence.  While most clear air turbulence is moderate or less, occasionally, it can get severe or extreme.  Even so, it remains difficult to forecast.  Nevertheless, knowing the patterns to look for is critical to assessing the potential for clear air turbulence.  This workshop will discuss what to look for on a constant pressure chart and Skew-T log (p) diagram to identify signatures for significant clear air turbulence.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTQz">Using the infrared satellite image to determine cloud tops</a> - There are very few sources to determine the altitude of the tops of a cloud deck.  The area forecast and pilot reports are two great resources.  However, pilot reports of tops are not always available and the area forecast is a textual product and doesn't have the best temporal and spatial resolution.  The color-enhanced infrared satellite image provides cloud tops temperatures which can be used to determine the actual cloud tops.  This workshop will show how to use the color-enhanced infrared satellite image along with other resources to accurately depict the height of most cloud tops.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTQy">Forecast soundings over water</a> - When using the RUC soundings Java tool to show the future vertical profile of temperature and dewpoint, it's important to understand that the sounding isn't always valid right over the airport you entered.  In fact, if you are using an airport near a body of water such as a lake, bay or ocean, you may find that the point that is shown in the diagram is over the water.  This can produce a substantially different sounding than if over land.  This workshop will identify the differences that can occur between a sounding over the water and one that is over land.    <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=Mzg">Graphical AIRMETs</a> - Graphical AIRMETs or G-AIRMETs are a relatively new product issued by the Aviation Weather Center  (AWC).  It is issued by the same forecasters that issue the traditional text-based en route advisories known as AIRMETs.  AIRMETs have limitations that are not completely understood by many pilots.  They are time-smeared forecasts that are valid over a six hour period which provides a poor spatial and temporal resolution.  G-AIRMETs, on the other hand, are snapshots defining the expected coverage of the adverse weather element valid at a specific time.  This workshop will introduce the G-AIRMET product and identify how it is different from the traditional AIRMET text.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTQw">Using GFS and NAM model output statistics</a> - Terminal forecasts (TAFs) are the only site-specific forecast available to pilots.  However, thousands of airports are not served by a TAF.  Model output statistics or MOS from the North American Mesoscale (NAM) and Global Forecast System (GFS) models provide site specific forecasts for over 1700 airports throughout the U.S.  This workshop will demonstrate how to leverage these forecasts and read the tabular MOS bulletin.    <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTM5">Freezing rain depth</a> - Freezing rain is one adverse weather element that should get every pilots attention...even those flying large turbojet aircraft.  Many pilots are taught when encountering freezing rain, climbing is the best choice.  It is explained that initiating a climb will put them into the warmer air aloft that is melting the falling snow into rain.  What pilots don't appreciate is that freezing rain is truly a "ground-hugging" phenomenon.  This workshop will explain how a freezing rain event occurs and how to determine its depth on a Skew-T log (p) diagram.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTM4">TAF amendments</a> - Terminal aerodrome forecasts, better known to pilots as TAFs are one of the most detailed aviation forecasts available to pilots.  They are constructed by forecasters located at the local Weather Forecast Offices (WFOs).  Even after a particular TAF is issued, the forecaster must continue to monitor the weather to determine if the TAF is still representative of the current and forecast weather within the terminal area.  Once the weather reaches amendment criteria, the forecaster will ordinarily amend the TAF.  This workshop will provide the background on the criteria that is used by forecasters to determine when a TAF should be amended.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTM3">Too cold for structural icing</a> - During the cold season when clouds are present, it is likely that the northern third of the U.S. will be blanketed by AIRMET Zulu warning pilots of the potential for widespread areas of structural icing.  But, just because clouds are present, doesn't imply the presence of supercooled liquid water.  When temperatures are very cold, even in areas of moderate snowfall, structural icing may not be likely as the clouds may be glaciated.  As a result, AIRMET Zulu may not be issued for these areas.  This workshop will explain how cold is "too cold" for the presence of supercooled liquid water.     <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTM0">Calculating the relative humidity using a Skew-T log (p) diagram</a> - The RUC soundings java tool automatically calculates the relative humidity at any altitude where there is temperature and dewpoint data.  The relative humidity is shown as a function of the cursor feature in this tool.  However, you can calculate the relative humidity at locations other than those at specific data points.  This workshop will provide instruction on how to use the saturation mixing ratio to calculate the relative humidity on a Skew-T log (p) diagram.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTMy">A case of bad CIP</a> - Most of the time the Current Icing Product or CIP that is available on the Aviation Digital Data Service (ADDS) will provide a fairly accurate icing analysis at the top of each and every hour.  One advantage that CIP brings to the table is that it uses several observational sources to build the analysis.  This includes surface observations (METARs), pilot reports (PIREPs) NEXRAD radar, lightning data, two hour model forecast parameters and infrared and visible satellite data.  But, CIP can have some issues distinguishing clouds from snow on the ground especially right at sunrise or sunset.  This workshop will examine a case right after sunrise where CIP showed no chance of structural icing in Upstate New York despite reports of moderate icing from pilots in the area.   <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTMx">SPC convective outlooks - Part 2</a> - The Storm Prediction Center (SPC) is primarily concerned with severe weather such as severe thunderstorms.  However, they do provide products that forecast the likelihood of general organized convection that is not severe.  When initially issued the Day 1 convective outlook provides a categorical forecast for convection (including severe convection) for a period of 24 hours.   A temporal resolution such as this is not as useful to pilots.  This workshop will introduce an experimental product called the enhanced resolution thunderstorm outlook that provides a probabilistic forecast for thunderstorms that includes a temporal resolution as low as four hours.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTMz">Using the VAD wind profile (VWP) for cloud tops</a> - The VAD Wind Profile provides a depiction of the winds with altitude. It is generated by the NWS WSR-88D NEXRAD Doppler radars.   It is used by some pilots to determine the tops or height of a cloud deck.  While it may paint a fairly reasonable depiction of the location of the cloud tops, the VWP is a volumetric sample around the radar site and may not always be representative of the tops, especially the further you are from the radar site.  This workshop will demonstrate how to properly use this product and illustrate some of its inherent limitations.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTMw">Gust fronts on radar</a> - Gust fronts can be highly dangerous to pilots.  They often proceed a line of convection producing strong straight line winds and severe or extreme turbulence.   In some cases, the gust front may appear as a thin line moving ahead of the convection on the NWS NEXRAD Doppler radar image.  These gust fronts can move outward a considerable distance from the primary radar returns associated with the convection.  However, they are seen as lower intensity returns and are ordinarily filtered by satellite weather providers such as XM Radio.  This workshop will show how to identify a gust front on a NEXRAD radar image.      <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTIy">How moisture affect surface-based CAPE</a> - When using a Skew-T log (p) diagram to determine the potential for deep, moist convection, pilots need to understand that a small change in the surface dewpoint temperature can adversely affect the resulting surface-based CAPE value.   If the actual dewpoint temperature is greater than forecast, this may change the entire convective situation in the late afternoon.  This workshop will illustrate just how to change the surface dewpoint on the Skew-T log (p) diagram to see the resulting lifted parcel lapse rate and new CAPE value.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTIx">Using the satellite image on XM-delivered satellite weather</a> - An infrared satellite image is one of the many products available from the XM-delivered satellite weather broadcast.  While it does a fairly good job showing the extent of cloud cover day or night, the broadcast satellite image may not show all clouds.  This is especially true for cloud decks that have tops below 5,000 feet AGL.  This workshop will explain the limitations of this satellite image product and how to recognize the when an overcast cloud deck might not be displayed.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTE3">Non-convective LLWS - Part 2</a> - While a forecast for non-convective low level wind shear (LLWS) is ordinarily not a threat for severe or greater turbulence, there are times where it can produce some dangerous conditions for pilots.  This is especially true when it is associated with a strong and developing synoptic weather system.  Non-convective LLWS is a form of vertical speed shear in the atmosphere.  In other words, the wind is forecast to increase rapidly with height.  This workshop will highlight the key elements to look for to determine when non-convective LLWS should be strictly avoided.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTE1">How to get the most from the RUC soundings Java tool</a> - The RUC soundings Java tool allows the pilot to examine the vertical profile of atmospheric temperature and moisture by generating a forecast sounding or analysis on a thermodynamic chart called a Skew-T log (p) diagram.  This diagram can be generated from that data captured during a weather balloon launch known as a rawinsonde observation or a diagram can be generated from the output of a forecast model such as the Rapid Update Cycle (RUC).  The tool itself has many features a few of which are not well documented.  This workshop will expose a few of those features in order to get the most utility out of the tool.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTEz">Upslope stratus</a> - When pilots think of "upslope" stratus, they normally picture air flowing up the side of a mountain range.  However, upslope stratus can be created even by the gentle slope from the middle Mississippi Valley to the central high Plains producing a very widespread IFR event.  This workshop will explain the conditions that may lead to such an event in the Midwest U.S.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTEy">Shallow convective icing</a> - During the early spring it is not uncommon to have a shallow convective icing event unfold just south of the Great Lakes region.  As cold, dense air filters in aloft, early daytime heating can create rather unstable conditions to fuel such an event.  While this is not a deep, moist convective event producing thunderstorms, it can produce some very juicy clouds containing copious amounts of supercooled liquid water.  This workshop will explain how to use the simulated reflectivity product to help identify such an event.  <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTEw">Airports in the vicinity of higher terrain</a> - The Skew-T log (p) diagram is one of the pilot’s most versatile aviation weather power tools. The Earth Systems Research Laboratory’s Global Systems Division (ESRL/GSD) developed a Java-based tool that will build Skew-T log (p) diagrams based on the output of several numerical weather prediction models including the Rapid Update Cycle or RUC model. It requires more than just interpreting a complex diagram, however. Before the first diagram appears in your browser, understanding how to choose the appropriate initial data source is critical especially when you are trying to assess the potential for fog or low ceilings at an airport in the vicinity of higher terrain. This workshop will examine a case where using the right initial data source makes a huge difference when determining the potential for low IFR conditions at an airport that has rising terrain to the north.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTA5">Stratocumulus clouds</a> - Very few pilots are taught about the dangers of a thin stratocumulus deck.  These clouds are typically produced in the wake of a cold front and are usually only a few thousand feet deep.  Nevertheless, during the cold season they can contain a copious amount of supercooled liquid water especially near the cloud tops.  This workshop will discuss what produces stratocumulus clouds and why they are so dangerous from an icing perspective.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTA4">Predicting an overcast to build down</a> - As a major weather system approaches, it is common for a high overcast to blanket the sky.   As it draws closer, the middle and lower clouds begin to fill in with time.  Eventually, VFR conditions morph into marginal VFR and then eventually drop to IFR or low IFR.  This workshop will demonstrate how to use a Skew-T log (p) diagram to predict the timing of an overcast building down to a low IFR event.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTA2">Air mass modification</a> - Air masses are homogeneous bodies of air with the same temperature and moisture properties across a given line of latitude.  They tend to originate in specific areas where they develop their characteristics.  As air masses move from their source region, they can be modified by the characteristics of the terrain below.  This workshop discusses how the Great Lakes can modify a cold and dry Canadian air mass. <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MzU">30-hour TAFs</a> - For years, TAFs have been only issued out to 24 hours.  However, due to a recent change, the NWS will be issuing TAFs out to 30 hours for 34 high-impact airports throughout the U.S. and its territories.  Adding 6 hours to the total forecast time was in support of long haul operators.  This forecast forced a change in the format of TAFs.  This workshop shows how to read the new coded format for TAFs.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MzY=">How to identify a capped atmosphere</a> - Pilots are taught that thunderstorms develop when there is sufficient moisture, instability and lift.  Some convective indices such as the Lifted Index will only tell you whether or not there is ample moisture and instability.  It says nothing about the presence of lift.  Using a flight planning example in the Midwest, this workshop explains how thunderstorms are not likely even with a widespread region of very negative lifted indices.   <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=NTE">Who cares about pilot reports?</a> - Pilot reports or PIREPs are one of the most sought after pieces of weather information.  Every pilot report helps other pilots to make good decisions in regard to preflight planning and en route operations.  However, they are not just used by pilots.  This workshop will show how forecasters can also leverage these pilot reports when making or amending forecasts.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=Mzc">Convective outlooks - Part 1</a> - Deep, moist convection also known as thunderstorms are one of the most difficult weather phenomenon to forecast. Depending on the circumstances, forecasting the time and location of the initiation of deep, moist convection is either incredibly difficult or fundamentally impossible. So the best forecasters can do at the moment is to provide general guidance through a probabilistic approach represented by convective outlooks. This workshop explains how use the convective outlook products issued by the Storm Prediction Center (SPC) and the Aviation Weather Center (AWC).      <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MzQ">Convective flight planning</a> - Even after you close the door on the airplane and are ready to depart, weather analysis never stops until you are safely back on the ground.  This is especially important when deep, moist convection is in the forecast.  In addition to all the fancy tools such as satellite-delivered weather, knowing what to look for outside cockpit can help with decisions of route and altitude.  This workshop presents the clues to look for while you are en route to your destination to minimize your exposure to dangerous convective turbulence.    <br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=NDY">Using NEXRAD to identify the location of a front</a> - Frontal systems are normally the focal point for deep, moist convection also known as thunderstorms. Using the NEXRAD radar image can be a great way to identify where the front may exist in real time. Fronts are boundaries in the atmosphere that separate two distinctly different air masses consisting of air of differing density defined by temperature and moisture. These density differences may show up readily on the NWS WSR-88D NEXRAD Doppler radar especially if the radar is in clear air mode. This workshop explores one such case where severe storms erupted along a boundary identified on NEXRAD radar.<br />
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<a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=NTk">Thunderstorms in the terminal area</a> - Terminal aerodrome forecasts (TAFs) are a forecast for the meteorological conditions significant to aviation at an airport.  The terminal area is defined as a radius of 5 statute miles from the center of the airport's runway complex.  Given this small area, meteorologists at the local Weather Forecast Offices (WFOs) are reluctant to issue a forecast for thunderstorms unless there is an overwhelming feeling that thunderstorms will impact the small terminal area.  This workshop will outline the criteria that must be met before meteorologists issue a forecast for thunder in the terminal area.<br />
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            <description><![CDATA[ If you use the simulated reflectivity forecasts from the WRF-NMM contained in the Roadmap, you may notice that the forecasts are out of date quite frequently.  I pinged the developer and here's what he has said - his emphasis.<br />
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            <description><![CDATA[ I thought that this quote found on a plaque in front of the NTSB Academy was interesting...<br />
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<br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>Although the RAP evaluation resulted last Monday in a recommendation at NCEP for implementation, some computer issues have arisen since then resulting in a delay in the RAP implementation until no earlier than Tuesday, 3 April 2012. As the new implementation date is hardened, that information will be posted.<br/></div></blockquote>]]></description>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I had the pleasure of being interviewed by Marc Lee of Plane & Pilot.  You can read his article <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/proficiency/weather-flying/weather-avoidance-back-to-basics.html">here</a>.  Unfortunately he got a few things wrong and didn't give me a chance to review the article before it was published.]]></description>
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            <title>:S How do you identify the tops of those clouds?</title>
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Below is a brief discussion on how to identify the tops of most clouds.  This is a somewhat complex topic and if you want a more complete explanation be sure to purchase the <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/workshop-detail.php?contentSet=MTU2">Estimating Cloud Tops</a> premium workshop.  It contains a very thorough explanation and lots of practical examples.  But, here's a short primer on the subject to whet your appetite...<br />
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First and foremost, you should always arrive at an answer from using multiple sources of information.  <i class="bbcode">Don't put your faith in one single weather product</i>.  Every single-source weather product has its limitations...including PIREPs.  You get your highest quality answers when you integrate all the products together.  Treat it like your instrument scan; don't over rely on one instrument...because one day you'll get burned when it fails or provides conflicting information.<br />
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Next, be sure you understand what kind of product you are using.  When you look at a weather product, determine if it is an observation, forecast or analysis.  Some pilots are notoriously bad at this.  <br />
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1.  Observations only tell you about the past and typically tell you about the sensible elements (temperature, moisture, wind, pressure, etc.).  Alone, they tell you nothing about the future.  They can be from sensors (temperature, for example) or human observation (visibility for example).  They can be a few minutes old or they may be hours old.  The fresher an observation and the closer it is to the location of interest, the more useful it is.  Older observations need to be looked at with some skepticism.  Don't discount older observations, just consider them for what they are, older observations.  <br />
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Observations are great for looking at trends in the atmosphere.  Often the weather upstream from the area of interest can provide clues about what might happen downstream an hour or two from now.  <br />
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2.  Of course, forecasts tell you about the future.  A forecast's foundation are observations.  Forecasts can be created by humans (TAFs, area forecasts, short range forecasts, etc.) or can be computer generated from numerical weather prediction models essentially untouched by humans.  They can be valid one hour, three hours or 3 days in the future.  Keep in mind that the forecast you are looking at might be old and valid in the past.  The key here is to be sure you are looking at the latest "run" or the latest issuance of forecasts.  Looking at older forecasts isn't a bad thing; recognize that there might be a newer issuance available that might provide a more recent view of what might happen.<br />
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3.  Analyses are not forecasts and are not typically a set of raw observations.  Most of the time they provide value-added information to the observations.  A weather depiction chart, surface analysis chart, the Current Icing Product (CIP) all are examples of an analysis.  The 00 hour model-based products also are referred to as an analysis that depict the intitial conditions of the forecast models.  Analyses are always valid in the past since they take time to generate.  They could be a few minutes old or may be several hours old by the time they hit the wire.  They may be updated hourly or several times throuhout the day.     <br />
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The valid time on any weather product should be the first thing you look at; your eyes should immediately go right to the date-time stamp on product.  If you don't do this, force yourself to do this.  This needs to become a habit.  Just because you click on the NEXRAD loop and for the last 300 times it was the current loop, doesn't mean the 301st time it will be current.    <br />
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Products can be valid at a specific date and time or over a range of times.  I know this can be a source of confusion to many pilots.  Knowing when a product is valid is important to understand how to use the product and its limitations.  AIRMETs and SIGMETs, area forecasts, accumulated precipitation forecasts are all valid over a range of times...often referred to as a time-smeared forecast.  During the winter, AIRMET Zulu for example, can be very large and cover a lot of territory.  However, this doesn't mean that icing exists all through this large area.<br />
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Accumulated precipitation products are often valid over a range of times and some products only list one time in the date-time stamp.  How do you know the valid range?  You have to study the product more closely and determine this before using it.  In most cases, the valid time is the <i class="bbcode">ending</i> time of the range.  So a 3 hour accumulated precipitation product with a time of 2100 UTC is valid from 1800 UTC through 2100 UTC, for example.<br />
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Why all this fanfare just to look at tops?  Because it is important to arriving at the right answer.   <br />
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The first thing to do is look at the synoptic picture.  I look at the latest surface analysis from the HPC that tells me a lot about the current state of the atmosphere.  Just like you would look at the NEXRAD loop versus a still image, I also always examine the surface analysis loop over the last 24 hours.  It provides me with a sense of the dynamics of the atmosphere.  What features are strenghening or weakening, what is the direction of movement, is the circulation from a dry or moist source or are the skies clear and winds calm?   <br />
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Similar to the surface chart, examining the upper air analyses and forecasts is critical to understanding the dynamics driving the weather.  Is there a shift in the wind aloft such that upper level flow is coming from a dry source region versus low level flow that might be coming from a moisture source.  Advective processes normally are responsible for many stratus layers we experience.  <br />
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Is the wind and/or moisture being forced upslope?  Even a gradual upslope from Houston to Denver can produce a fairly thick stratus deck over a broad area without any major players (fronts, areas of low pressure, for example).    <br />
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This is perhaps the most important element and one that is least understood by most pilots.  Stability is what determines if a weather system will be convective or non-convective.  Sometimes instability is "capped" which can limit the tops of convection.  Knowing where this cap is can often tell you where the tops of the cumulus clouds are located.  Stable layers can produce stratiform clouds that with enough punch can produce drizzle or freezing drizzle aloft.  Most stratus events are near the surface and have very well defined tops.     <br />
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In the winter, AIRMET Zulu might provide some clues as to the extent of the icing layer.  The tops of the icing layer identified in the AIRMET may just be the vertical extent of the clouds.  As I mentioned earlier, AIRMETs are a time-smeared forecast so be careful to know that the entire AIRMET region might not be experiencing tops at the same height as indicated in the AIRMET. <br />
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Cloud top temperatures often tell you the altitude of the highest tops in the area.  Relating temperature to height can be difficult at times, but it's another source to examine.  Remember, this is an observation and tells you nothing about what might happen 3 hours from now.  Just like using any observation, trends in the satellite image loop can tell you how the weather is changing or not changing with time.<br />
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The visible satellite image during daylight hours can tell you about the "texture" of the clouds.  Bumpy looking or wave clouds will let you know the tops might be variable.  Flat looking clouds will imply the tops are probably even.  Keep in mind that flat looking tops might "grow" in height in the direction of rising terrain.<br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Current Icing Product and Forecast Icing Product</strong><br />
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CIP is an analysis that tells you about the recent past.  It is available 20 minutes past each hour.  Since CIP combines METARs, NEXRAD, lightning, PIREPs and forecast model parameters, it represents a good integration of data.  In the winter, looking at the top of the icing layer shown by CIP might be a good indicator of the tops of the clouds.  Temperature is very important here, so if there are multiple freezing levels, you might see a "no ice" slot and think that's the top of the layer.  In reality you might just be in the "warm nose" between the two freezing levels.  Perhaps not the best place to be and you may not be "on top" either.  <br />
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In a similar way, FIP can help you picture the top of the icing layer in the near future.  FIP produces a 1, 2, 3, 6, 9 and 12 hour forecast for the probability of structural icing.  Using a similar strategy as above, knowing the top of the forecast icing layer might provide you with a clue of the tops.    <br />
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<strong class="bbcode">PIREPs</strong><br />
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PIREPs are of infinite value in my mind.  But limitations do exist and you really must understand these in order to apply them properly.  PIREPs can be miscoded and may not arrive to you in the way the pilot intended.  About 20 percent of the pilot reports I file end up having some mistake...could be aircraft type, altitude, location, etc.  In a variable environment, icing can go from negative to severe just within a 50 mile radius.  Tops can be low on one side of the Lake Michigan and much higher on the other side.    <br />
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PIREPs age with time.  A PIREP that is right near your proposed route is great unless it is two hours old.  The older the PIREP, the less useful it is.  However, if some of the analysis I pointed out above might lead you to believe that the PIREP is still pretty valid given a situation that isn't changing much with time.   Again, it's important to understand the dynamics.  <br />
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PIREPs are also pretty scarce during the overnight hours and early morning hours.  Often the PIREPs are up high or down low and not at the cruise altitudes we need to identify tops.<br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Echo tops</strong><br />
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Don't try to use these for determining cloud tops.  You'll be disappointed way too many times.  Sure, when good precipitation is falling, they might represent reality.  But if you are flying over a stratus deck, there's little chance this will show up in the echo tops unless the stratus deck has some huge drops and/or precipitation.  It's just not intended to be used for this purpose.<br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Balloon-borne soundings and forecast soundings</strong><br />
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Probably one of the best ways to determine the height of the cloud tops.  There's a big difference intepreting these for a convective situation versus a non-convective cloud deck.  In a convective environment, just trying to compare temperature to the dew point, you might easily miss some serious cumulus clouds.  Convective enviroments require you to take some extra steps to determine where the extent of the cloud tops might be located.  It is possible most of the time...but much harder.  I can teach you in about 5 minutes how to determine stratus cloud tops using soundings.  It will take me 4 hours or longer to just break the surface with evaluating convective cloud tops.<br />
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Balloon-borne soundings are the best to use since they show "actual" conditions.  They are only launched twice a day (before 12Z and before 00Z) and are sparse like the FB wind stations.  Remember, the sensor on the balloon only records what is sees.  If the balloon happened to pop through a hole of a convective environment, it might show a lack of clouds.  Or, a balloon could have risen through a smaller cumulus cloud that is still growing and give you the impression the tops are lower.  <br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Others</strong><br />
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There are many other products that I use from time to time to help me identify the cloud tops.  The important thing is that you need to integrate all of these sources to get the answer and don't simply rely on just one source (a single PIREP that is two hours old) to make your decision.  Hopefully this discussion helps a few folks.<br />
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            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 14:16:20 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Updraft strength in deep, moist convection</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ What is the updraft strength in a mature thunderstorm? <br />
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I don't know if there's ever been studies to know a maximum number.  But the updraft strength or what is called the upward vertical velocity (UVV) in a thunderstorm is directly related to the Convective Available Potential Energy (CAPE).  CAPE is like pressing down on a big spring.  The more you press down, the more potential energy that is stored.  When it is released, the stored energy is released upward...the more energy, the faster the upward motion.  <br />
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In thunderstorms it's all about buoyant energy. The greater the difference between the environmental temperature and the lifted parcel (updraft), the faster the vertical motion.  CAPE, however, can be large, but spread over a large vertical chunk of the atmosphere - called thin CAPE.  Thin CAPE has a smaller spread (aka lifted index) and less updraft strength.  Fat CAPE, may also be large, but attributed to a smaller chunk of the atmosphere.  It's spread is a lot larger (more negative lifted index). Vertical velocities are typically larger with fat CAPE.  <br />
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Nevertheless, vertical velocities are typically estimated by taking the CAPE multiplying it by 2 and taking the square root.  So a CAPE value of 3,000 (practically speaking this is large) would result in a vertical velocity of 77 m/s or 15,000 fpm.  I believe that most thunderstorms will be in the 4,000 to 6,000 fpm range.  You may find that thunderstorms that develop within strong areas of instability (large, fat CAPE) may exceed 10,000 fpm.  Think about it this way, if a thunderstorm can produce hail as large as a grapefruit, you'd need a pretty significant updraft to keep that kind of weight cycling up and down in the cell before it falls out of the thunderstorm into the hail shaft.    <br />
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But, keep in mind that the maximum vertical velocity may be around 400 mb (25,000 ft) in many storms over the U.S. Tropical convection like we saw in the vicinity of the Air France accident is a different beast, however - most of its updraft strength is above 32,000 ft with fairly weak updrafts in the mid level of the atmosphere...that's why we don't see much lightning in tropical convection. <br />
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At the base of the convection you might only see velocities as large as 6 m/s (1200 fpm) and this will typically occur in the right-front quadrant of the thunderstorm cell (based on its forward motion).  Although, short-duration (15 seconds) updrafts at the base of the cloud in converging thunderstorm cells have been seen as high as 23 m/s (4,500 fpm).]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:02:43 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Response to a weather article in the POPA magazine</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The Pilatus Owners and Pilots Association (POPA) now publishes a very slick-looking glossy quarterly magazine.  I opened my copy of the Winter 2012 issue and saw an article written by Bill Cox entitled, <span style="color: #0000FF">Spring Thunderstorms</span>.  I always attempt to read any weather-related article because there's often a lot of misinformation presented that makes for a good learning opportunity for everyone else.  This article didn't disappoint me in that area.<br />
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In the beginning of the article, Mr. Cox states that "<span style="color: #0000FF">Air France 447, an Airbus A330, may have been brought down in 2009 by <u class="bbcode">violent weather</u> above the South Atlantic off the coast of Brazil.</span>"  First, the accident actually occurred north of the equator.  So I'm not sure that I would have called this the South Atlantic.  Second, as I stated in <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://avwxworkshops.com/forum/read.php?8,94,94#msg-94">this</a> analysis that I made shortly after the accident, the cause was most likely due to ice crystals in the clouds, not structural icing or turbulence.  It was <strong class="bbcode">not</strong> due to the aircraft flying directly into extreme convective turbulence causing it to depart from controlled flight.  So yes, weather around a tropical mesoscale convective system (MCS) played a role, but the loss of control was not engendered by turbulence.<br />
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The guts of the article focuses around telling a couple of stories about delivery flights that Mr. Cox made over many years.  But, toward the end of the article he mentions, "<span style="color: #0000FF">Thunderstorm encounters above 20,000 feet don't normally present much of an icing hazard, as it's usually too cold for ice to form...</span>"  It is true that as air gets colder, the icing occurrences tend to drop off.   Nevertheless, maybe that's been his "lucky" experience, but supercooled liquid water above 20,000 feet is actually quite common, especially when it comes to deep, moist convection.  Just take a look at pilot reports on a regular basis to see just how common it is.<br />
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In fact, during the spring and summer when convection is likely, the freezing level is often as high as 17,000 feet throughout much of the southern half of the U.S.  That means the temperatures at 20,000 feet to 30,000 feet are very much prime for supercooled liquid water (-2°C to -20°C).  In fact, ice crystal production doesn't typically begin until the temperatures drop below about -12°C.  Moreover, within convection supercooled liquid water can be carried to very high levels and cold temperatures in thunderstorm updrafts (one of the requirements to produce lightning).  In fact, Environment Canada has recorded water in a liquid state down to -37.5°C and that was also in a thunderstorm.  Theoretically supercooled liquid water can exist down to -40°C.  <br />
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The Current Icing Product (CIP) found on the Aviation Digital Data Service (ADDS) website <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow"  href="http://aviationweather.gov/adds/icing/icingnav">here</a> uses a cutoff temperature threshold of -25°C for icing <u class="bbcode">unless</u> it is in the vicinity of deep, moist convection.  For that, they drop the temperature threshold down to -30°C in regions that exhibit lighting.  That's because it is likely that supercooled liquid water exists within convection down to really cold temperatures.             <br />
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The last paragraph was the best one of all.  Mr. Cox says, "<span style="color: #0000FF">In his book, Operational Overflight, U2 pilot Francis Gary Powers recalled a flight above the Middle East when he was looking 'way up' at the top of a thunderstorm.  And Powers was at 80,000 feet.</span>"  <br />
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This would make it appear as if thunderstorm tops can actually reach up to altitudes way above 80,000 feet, which they cannot.  It is rare to see tops of thunderstorms (even those most severe) to reach 60,000 feet.  Thunderstorms over 65,000 feet are extremely rare.  Finding a thunderstorm to exceed 70,000 feet is probably as rare as getting struck by lightning...more than once.  I don't doubt that Mr. Powers came across a cumulonimbus cloud with overshooting tops that exceeded 65,000 feet, but I am not believing that he ran across one that topped out at 90,000+ feet.  <br />
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I read Operational Overflight some time ago and have an electronic copy as well.  I looked up this reference.  Here's what Mr. Powers says in the book, "I encountered several varieties of trouble en route.  One was a violent thunderstorm, the worst I had ever seen, which obscured our objective.  For a while I was unaware whether I could fly above it, it extended so high."  Nothing was mentioned that he was at 80,000 feet and that he was looking "way up" at the thunderstorm.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Scott Dennstaedt</dc:creator>
            <category>Scott's Aviation Weather Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:40:54 -0500</pubDate>
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